This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. when cgtrader change his frontpage i stop selling products bad :(. So what's needed? Sometimes you have to support the buyer. In my country you have to be adult to do bussines and legal stuff. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. I was thinking of ok if the ts is shit why not using other marketplace with the cgt specially if both accept selling in other marketplace, You have zero 3D models uploaded here. I think there needs to be a more valued motivation ($) in order to get people rank in great numbers consistently. Those are very interesting ideas to develop for the future. They just took multiple of my most expensive items and run for it. (I forgot to put TS up). Looks to me like they are providing a very content creator friendly environment. Of course if you have a PC with quad processors over 16 GB of ram things will be different but be warned students and low end users. Besides how about your right to fair trade? https://garagedoorrepairchesapeake.com/garage-door-replacement/. Thank you again! About TS: But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. It would be mess. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. - Guides/Tips for sellers regarding prices/quality to minimize the undercutters problem. I think posting links to showcase your model in an animation or to show how a rig works is extremely advantageous. with the recent requirements to upload a 3D product on TS, CGT became my number one no doubt, i'm not gonna wast half my life rendering turntables that wouldn't make much of a difference when every seller is doing the same thing. Ha, ha. My personal experience, having had a short stint as a 3d print seller on Turbosquid, is that they paint with way too broad a brush when it comes to potential IP infringement. It is a shame that cg trader has so few people using it but turbosquid has been going for some time now and is very well established. Hi adentonclark, Thanks for sharing Your experience and thoughts. It sells almost nothing, except, perhaps, with very low prices. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. If there is a problem they will fix it for you. Turbosquid has a horrendous up-loader CGTrader is bather as a platform and like I wrote above if we help in couple of months will overcome TS on search engines, which will also increase our sales. As a game developer i will never buy a 3d models online since 95% are done on student version of software or pirated version. For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. Since you havent contacted us about any of these changes being incorrect, we are resetting prices on these models one final time (see the attached CSV file listing these models). Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. Also, the problem comes from the sellers, not the site designers, for a large part. Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. People may think that having that option makes it more likely for sellers to see their work by placing their models in the incorrect category but actually that just irritates buyers who may just go elsewhere to buy. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. My initial stance on this was, ok fine then my Ts account can stay up for those few that seemingly do not know anything ells outside of Ts. "google8":www.google.com, google10 I have been very active on a forum of a different 3D model store, but the guys running it seemed to be ignorant about the issue. That place is dead for me. But based on the results, we see that it makes sense to show off the CG part on the homepage as well. Chat with Support 24/7 Maybe it is unnecessary complex? If the buyer decided to buy after inspecting a sample, the seller would deduct the sample price from another 3d model. However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). Comment goo's like this, quote "Awesome model, converted this guy over into maya and he looks great" end quote. Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. And also because of the complete isolation of the seller-buyer. Bottom line is if people are used to buying from TS they won't buy here because they need to use a different system so let's create our own client base. But they must realise that attracting more buyers only through more aggresive marketing is not enough. It might be a good idea to see what the customer experience is with various market places by making an experimental purchase at each and seeing who has the most effective methods of enticing return visits and encouraging word-of-mouth bumps. Personally, I felt I in no way infringed on said IP. Renderosity. ! Cheap and free models are killing cgtrader. I could go on and on, it kept me puzzled. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. In my personal opinion TS is working very hard towards buyers and exploits sellers as much as they can, well except few chosen ones, while CGT is taking great care about sellers, but leaving buyers somewhat aside. Just condemn this type of fear tactics right-away and start supporting better organizations. 5. the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? The art is to do it structurally organized and easily navigable and then it is a matter of giving the people the right tools and they will do the rest issue I think. They do not deserve that I fed them 60% Gumroad is an awesome virtual marketplace where artists can create their own store and sell any type of digital asset, from textures to tutorial series. tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. flob3d: I don't know if Jonathan invented the CheckMate, but what I can say is that Jonathan is a good professional and he often helped me a lot, so I have no complaints to make. just 2 years ago still existed. Fact is, the best is where is can make the most sales. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. I do not know if community-policing has helped other sites keep their products better organized. Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. Unless you have a huge ass :) You can not keep all aspects of these markets covered, so you will only be average on all of them or even worse. We need to broaden our spectrum and clientele if we want to make more money. So in this case you could say we are the asses and there's lots of us so we form a huge ass and CGt can place many chairs for us to sit on ;-) I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. --GENERAL--. Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. [Lighthouse12](http://lighthouseapp.com/ "Lighthouse12") Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. I sell fantasy-themed miniature models, and uploaded most of my then-current catalogue (consisting entirely of my original work) to Turbosquid only to have over half of it taken down a week later. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). Does anyone sale something on Cgtrader?where are customers. Hello, We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. To me it feels like he is amongst us and we are performing a team effort. Thus by searching to widen its audience, the buyer only decrease the site credibility. Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? A client would normally ALWAYS choose a cheaper price, that's a law of nature. To be honest, it's hard to me to believe that such respectable people like Mantas and Eduardas would refuse to remove negative feedback if it was given without firm reason. You must create a huge hype and create things that are unique and that connect with people. What I saw after that was a 50 to 50 ration decrease on Ts and increase on my CGt account. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. That thing is just getting started ;-). What I mean is CGt isn't rely making products, it is offering a sales platform and leaves the problem salving involving product issues (between sellers and buyers) to the product developers themselves (in theory) and in doing so minimizing/reducing overhead in sales. Needed something better and found it at CGt. --GENERAL--. The age of 3D models is over and people have moved on to 3D printing. I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. 3dsky.org2. It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. My price at the time was same both on Ts as on CGt but after some time position on CGt got better and sales was picking up. 2. That's why I won't model one single model for online sale until this heinous situation is rectified. [/quote] This is the Tesla Model 3. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. Search Filter Free products only Discount Formats Free products only Reset filters Free They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. Searching for specific terms applying to a specific model, the results on Google are nearly on first page. So good luck "shopping elsewhere" dear customer, this is turning into a monopoly slaughterhouse and a 3D warzone. I had hoped that CGTrader would want to be the kings but i have to be honest if you licence a thing only here you have to own it forever, as you cannot sell that licence. Important only is that there buy many people. It is the best RR in the world ! https://www.fiverr.com/pixel512/create-a-3d-model-shipping-container A little more than a year passed since our public disagreement with Turbosquid policies and behavior that ended our relationship as content creator and reseller. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. Been over 17 years with TS. It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. That definitely wasn't me hoe said that turbo. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. @limonadinis A serious problem indeed about Turbosquid is its policy of setting up barriers to avoid having a direct link to customers (this includes banning of al communication technologies). What this shows is their weakness. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. 3D Model jimmy choo. captainmarlowe is right. To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. Order 3D models. I agree structural arrangements need to be done to support this bud it needs to be done in a way so it supports the main axiom of openness. and we lived the evolution of Turbosquid from being a pioneer of the 3D assets market working alongside the real content developers to become a typical corporation with financial backing from angel investors that only cares about financial results and is trying to strive the 3D market towards a monopoly where they can control both the producers and the customers, where acting as just a middleman gets Turbosquid the most profit from both. They customize those figures anyway you want. On TS depends on the country you come for, you get around 30% of your earnings (this is how much you get on your account, I know it is stated 60% but they take additional 30% for US tax), here I am not shore how much you get as I just joined and did not made any sales. I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. 3D Model characters people woman This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character It has been sculpted and optimized for animation and game engines with a clean topology. i think they both have there place . I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. I removed the download limit until we update the protection so that buyers can download much larger quantities of free models. They call that "3D Industry" on the download report .. it's rare but it's happend (one time for me) I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). On other hand I could also think its just some clients that do not care about the price difference, they just prefer using the Ts account. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? Yes. This is a bit OT, but although I obviously ain't a squidguild member, I always try to design objects that are "checkmate" compliant to be sure that my models are OK, and I also beta test the .OBJ version in a lot of other applications that LW to be sure that they upload without hassle) In short I propose an integration of global search ore collections made by designers. Here it is quite seamless and elegant. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/industrial/other/shipping-container--4. If you are doing really bad with sales they let you do whatever you want but if you are doing well they step in and make things difficult. The site owners could also act on other various levels : I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. They could put down an amount between 1 to 5 bucks as a deposit and after sampling the model as you suggested they could deduct that amount from the final sale. It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. This is from my own personal experience. Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? Check my store https://apkvisa.com/dungeon-quest-mod-apk/, Very motivating and supportive too.Hope you keep on sharing a greater amount of your ideas. Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts. Then I contacted Eduardas and Mantas who refused to remove the rating, I remember fighting them at length to try to put my brand name withing the model description or my website link and eventually lost the battle. After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. 2. You have to choose a category to get a refresh. Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). - Moderating some pointless threads opened by people using CGtrader as an advertising platform for their own website without even selling a single object here Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. I don't know if Turbo Squid allows licence ownership to be transferred as i never got that far with them. "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". As someone suggested most serious buyers will end up buying 100 bucks worth of models so putting down 1 Dollar isn't going to cause any trouble. [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). Care to share your time machine? However, if you are found to be out of compliance again, your collection will be taken offline for a more extended period of time. when the same type of issue occurs on CGTrader, the Staff policy is to do nothing. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. 2. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader [/quote] Thanks iterateCGI, from the start we thought it will be best to expose the issues publicly, so other cg 3D sellers can see for themselves what they are exposed to when dealing with Turbosquid. Such an arrogant attitude. My opinions have evoluted over the months. So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites. Payment Method The more people ho place your item in their stores the higher your ranking for that product gets "in the pool that is". There are currently no models in your cart. Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. Maybe you think my words are disproportionate or naive but mark them now. This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character, rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Realistic White Male and Female Head Bundle. I have to agree. We've been on TS over 20 years and on CG trader since their start. clients will come where is a big diversificated data base of quality models (not only printable models) and artists will come where paying clients are. Also the management is awkward on TS. So it was sorted in your favor afterall? I think CGTrader just has to advertise itself more.. everything else will fall into place.. CG traders designer rank rep points. In fact my sells on TS are actually going down while they go up on CGt. Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". We state our opinions based on verifiable facts and stats, which is one of the most interesting parts of this thread. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. When you search for specific models car, bike etc you usually end up finding a bunch of irrelevant models in there that don't even belong in that category and that is largely due to the fact that, they allow users to setup their own tags So, CGT is the best guys ! He bought a cheap product (with a fake account) and post a bad rating. Answer (1 of 7): I'm a CGtrader member for almost two years now and in my opinion it is the best platform for stock media developers available today. - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. Yes, CG Trader is the best now some bugs should be solved. They should make more effort to advertise. In fact, any properly textured model over 5000 polys for less than 15 bucks is NOT okay, and does NOT look professional at all. @tomislavveg, that is very true, but as marvimation already mentioned, CGT first have to draw those buyers to its web, otherwise there's not much use from all those benefits if there's no buyers who could reap them :]. My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. Turbosquid has terrible royalty rates They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. The items from CG and TS do not appear very far from each other in Google. (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. It is pretty awesome!!! Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. The sellers for which, CGtrader liked can help for this resource. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. Personally, I will never sign up to exclusive contracts, others should always get chances to maybe offer better job if they can. Imagine if CGtrader provided a service where they could get photos of the broken mug, then have some artists create a 3D version from the broken pieces and then have it printed for the client and sent to their house or if the client wants they can use their 3D printing company of preference to do it. CGtrader staff admits to some degree to this problem (see the comment of Dalia Lasaite) and promises to redesign the homepage. A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. Sketchfab.com-------------------------------. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. The other issue is that Turbosquid has been out there for longer. Honestly I feel that it would be better to sell n bit slower that to have your models stolen. Pleas just stand your ground, we need people coming in not leaving out. Using TurboSquid 3D Models in Virtual Worlds. [http://www.google.com google5 ] Downside at CGTrader is as i've just been informed from Support is NO you can't sell the licence here and transfer it into another users name. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points.
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